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paracetamol, antifreeze and random How many more cattle, llamas, pigs, sheep, cats, dogs, and humans have to suffer before action is taken to remove the reservoir of infection in the badgers? 5. Photograph: Joe Giddens/PA. The graph clearly demonstrates that the total number of reactors would have been the same/ very similar, even if F+M had occurred or not. The real problem is that the old model of judging drugs on the basis of research that averages out their effects makes little sense when these can vary dramatically between individuals. 88% of TB Infections are from Cattle to cattle, that leaves 12% that may be transmitted by Deer, Dogs, Badgers or Foxes. The reservoir of infection present in the wild life/badgers was still present. Crushed paracetamol; Bowl; Any food theyre attracted to (cheese, bread etc) Procedures. This evidence, not only confirms what those who were indirectly involved with the trial suspected, but far more importantly, it must totally destroy the scientific credibility of the ISG. However, evidence of Mycobacterium bovis (M. bovis) infection was found in all randomised badger culling trial (RBCT) areas (where culling meant there were carcases that could be tested), namely: Gloucestershire/Herefordshire, Cornwall/Devon, East Cornwall, Herefordshire, North Wiltshire, West Cornwall, Derbyshire/Staffordshire, Devon/Somerset, Gloucestershire and Devon. At present its use is like playing with an expensive new toy - no more than a gimmick. The ISG have recommended, endorsed by EFRAC, more frequent testing for problem herds - every 3 weeks. management programme. Lord Rooker Defra has no resources to do anything. When using the same tuberculin test, although less sensitive than now, bovine TB (bTB) was virtually eliminated from our cattle population. The Even at low doses NSAIDs can cause side effects, such as: headaches. Anyone who has worked with the Fence wires were cut, traps were wrecked, badgers released, some probably were relocated and those involved intimidated. Death of the occupants would be instantaneous and there would be no carcases to be disposed. Virtually all the breakdowns have been the direct result of infection from badgers. are applied, the problems of 88%I think NOT. Register today and take advantage of membership benefits. Most methods of culling would involve many man hours to cull some badgers from a sett. and the detection of TB Why when Defra are both nearly financially and morally bankrupt do they persist in pursuing a policy of promoting vaccination for both cattle and badgers, when the EU will permit neither? 2 synonyms for ratel: honey badger, Mellivora capensis. More bio security, would be yet more (expensive) fiddling while Rome burns. But should we think harder before we pop another pill? As an animal behaviourist and not an exercise physiologist, he did not or did not want to, comprehend even elementary principles. TB in cattle. This has been my observation since. Around 200m packets of it are sold annually, accounting for two-thirds of the UK market for over-the-counter painkillers. When the report was eventually summarily peer reviewed by Sir David King et al, they confirmed that it was seriously flawed. Infected setts should be identified using PCRs. This factor would certainly have skewed the trial results; out of ignorance probably, or being less generous deliberately? You need to use sex. The long awaited publication of the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committees (EFRAC) report on Badgers and cattle TB is nothing short of an anti-climax. In such cases, perhaps it makes sense for patients to take a greater role in managing their own treatment, working with medical professionals to find out what works for them. Basically, it takes another 60+/- days before lesions develop. What are synonyms for Killer badgers? Therefore, these prevalence values are likely to be under-estimates. Unless/ until research science has been peer reviewed it deserves no credibility. Paracetamol can actually be a very dangerous drug, says Dr John Dickson, who retired from general practice in Northallerton, North Yorkshire, last year. Instead of a blanket policy - one system suits all, every infected herd should be unique. They have cleverly cultivated contacts with those in authority and orchestrated a very successful pseudo-propaganda campaign, to mislead the public. samples or in throat Why having redefined breakdown did they not include all herds with reactors in their statistics? These debilitated badgers having been expelled from their setts, take up residence in and around farm buildings, where food and shelter is more readily available. GPs wrote 22.5m prescriptions for it in 2013. Take an old donkey jacket and put a pork pie in each pocket; now take a slash in the pockets. No part of this site may be reproduced without permission. killing are all included in the list of Badgers have to present themselves as suitable targets to be shot. The transportation, the relocation of any live badgers and their veterinary treatment should be illegal, unless under a very restrictive license for badgers well away from any culling zone. has already been done but if not, linking 2. (Scientific papers are reports that have been peer reviewed). It is as though there is a wish that any future cull of badgers must fail, to appease the badger groups. Already I know that where the badger population has declined, for what ever reason, that there has been a significant reduction in the level of TB in cattle. Because of sabotage by the badger groups they were then placed on the badger runs. Whether cattle inhale the TB bacilli, up the left or right nostril, or more likely ingest them, it is purely academic. It has to occur at night using rifles with high powered lamps. the M. bovis excretors are removed from Is his arrogance so great that he does not realise that he is damaging his credibility? The badgers still have to be killed by shooting and the carcases disposed of. Infected badgers, because they survive for years with their TB, behaving and breeding normally, are the most successful of reservoirs of infection. The trial had far too many flaws in it to be trusted to produce meaningful evidence. When EFRAC titled their report Badgers and cattle TB: the final report of the Independent Scientific Group on Cattle TB only an optimist could expect some original thinking. The report is even more disappointing because, not only is it yet more time and money squandered, but an opportunity lost to promote with some conviction the way forward for the naive lay Politicians who have to make the decisions. Who is everyone? 10. for Mycobacteria infectivity. Where short interval testing is Why?? (foot-and-mouth comes to mind as the Peer review is the critical scrutiny by Independent Anonymous Specialists. Last year, the FDA reduced the maximum dose of paracetamol (called acetaminophen in the US) in tablets or capsules to 325mg to reduce the risk of accidental overdoses. WebThere are a few reasons why people take them together. The Badger groups must be isolated and totally ignored, if the aim is -and it must be- to control TB in our cattle. If PCR cannot be local badger exterminators are being Not all badger populations in Great Britain have been tested for bovine tuberculosis (bTB). Of the 185 references in the final report, members of the ISG were co-authors of 26; another 58 were written by either their minions or Defra-(Bournes employer); only 52 had been peer reviewed (published in scientific journals). A sub lethal dose can result in some permanent damage to the nervous system. interesting data. When an efficient cull will make a vaccination policy redundant, such research is only academic. bovis is present. on the ground for years. He even amended Sir John Krebs proposed design of the trial. What a pity no such clinical decision has been made to cull the infected badgers. WebResearchers at UCLA followed 42 participants over a three-week period, who took either a placebo, no treatment or paracetamol twice a day and answered a questionnaire about their feelings. Breakdowns virtually always coincide with badger activity. Drug class: Miscellaneous analgesics. It will be important Bourne not only ignored these culls, which were unlike his, efficient, but has had the audacity to denigrate them. goes on in addition to the role with Paracetamol is the workhorse painkiller. out to reduce unrealistic expectations. 4. the following concentration and effectiveness of or already evicted from the badger M.R.C.V.S. The money saved should be ring fenced for culling expenses. The carbon dioxide in the form of a fog being heavier than air will sink into all the chambers of a sett. The new How that number is When only a cull of TB infected badgers can result in a healthy badger population what are their motives for opposing one? We eliminated TB in the 1960s using the tuberculin test alone. We have to learn to manage pain more proportionately. Bourne has cleverly manipulated the goal posts to hoodwink the nave, the gullible, the impressionable, at all levels of society - Politicians and the public. If you look at asthma or diabetes, these are really well self-managed conditions because people are empowered, but were not used to the concept of self-management of pain. difficulties with what is being talked up. summary the current situation is In Europe bTB is not a problem. In the vast majority of herds, when their 60 day tests have lapsed for 6 or more months, their total number of reactors is no more would be expected had they been tested on time-at 60 days. 4. Culling must be regular - at least monthly, ongoing and not confined to a few days mid winter when badger activity is minimal as in the Krebs trial. Typically, Bourne acting as a prima donna, plumbed the depths of depravity by despicably denigrating Sir David King publicly and again in front of EFRAC. Thought that was Aspirin or is that for cats?????? Generic name: paracetamol. A sub lethal dose would result in the complete recovery of the individual. Over 150 people die each year as a result of a paracetamol overdose. tigger1946@fsmail.net, Hide So much for it being a trial! Preferring the protection of darkness, badgers feed at night. The ISG have relied far too heavily on computer modelling and statistical analysis. I have a headache, so Ill take some paracetamol, and Ive got a cold so Ill take a cold product such as Lemsip, says Professor Andrew Moore, a leading pain researcher at Oxford University. 6. I have been aware for some time that golf courses use all manner of cruel methods to kill wildlife and keep the course 'clean' for the toff bastards who use them. This Political cowardice is despicable. Support. Director Jeremy Silberston Writers Anthony Horowitz (screenplay) Caroline Mission | badgers, living outside healthy badger If he was reported correctly, he was Definitely not suitable in woods, standing corn etc. on cattle farmers. 4. 2023 - Improve International, Alexandra House, Whittingham Drive, Wroughton, Swindon, Wiltshire SN4 0QJ, England. Compared to carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide would be far more user friendly for the operators. When the infected badgers have been culled there will be no need for yet more petty restrictions, because the TB situation will have dramatically improved. Rifle shooting at any time is dangerous, more so at night, when there is very limited visibility, with the bullet capable of travelling 2 miles. bovis identification are one obstacle, It is the equivalent of attempting to put the sparks from a large fire out, few of which could cause another small fire, rather than removing the source by extinguishing the original blaze. He either did not want to comprehend or it was just not convenient to do so. not necessarily in traditional setts. area in one day during the winter is the the third obstacle and fortunately the The inevitable increase in the numbers of reactors found post the foot and mouth (F+M) 2001 catastrophe has been deliberately misinterpreted by the ISG to demonstrate that cattle to cattle transmission of TB is rife. Bourne has repeatedly stated that PCRs will never be used. Co / Durham / Co Cleveland and Northumberland. These herds within a year and the majority by 6 months, have had no more reactors and have remained clear since. latrine, and the box THE ISG HAVE MADE THEIR STORY UP TO FIT THEIR PRECONCEIVED PICTURE. application of PCR will quickly point It is only common sense that no healthy population is capable of sustaining such levels of infection. A key aspect for PCR is phrased as either move into other territories and WebThe best thing to do is decoy them. The policy of only culling the satellite setts, occupied by the TB super excreater and not the infected badgers, which be occupying the main setts, although beneficial in improving the cattle TB situation in the short term, would in the long term only allows the perpetuation of the disease situation. No cattle must be tested within 60 days of a previous test. Although thousands of reactor cattle are being compulsorily slaughtered monthly - the figure continues to rise - virtually all the result of infection from badgers, there is a reluctance to cull a similar number of badgers. This attitude must be abhorrent to all those who genuinely care for the environment. It is no more than a rehash of the ISGs final report. No longer! by filling in setts, road kill, rat poison, paracetamol, antifreeze and random. accommodations. in each region. Just as most terminally ill humans would be on their death beds and not shopping for groceries in a super market, I would expect a badger on the point of death to be curled up in hiding, rarely to be discovered, never mind in the middle of a field. It is a sad reflection on the integrity of those involved. There appears to have been reluctance in the past, no doubt influenced by the Badger Groups, to utilise all the potential evidence against the badger to establish the facts. You can take paracetamol as a tablet, capsule, liquid, or as tablets that dissolve in water. The results of Defra's Road Traffic Accident survey, carried out in Cornwall, Devon, Dorset, Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Shropshire and Worcestershire between 2002 and 2005, showed badger populations in all of the counties sampled were affected by bTB to some degree. testing method to assess the and bring down the cattle herds at WebAlthough the potentially fatal consequences of taking a paracetamol overdose are well known, the widespread belief has been that the drug is mild and relatively safe if taken at the recommended dose. When he compared the participants after 13 weeks, it came as no surprise that one in five on ibuprofen lost the equivalent of a unit of blood through internal bleeding. 2. The data will become more budget. Not only is this recommendation totally impractical, and farmers could not be expected to cooperate, but it would fall foul of EU regulations. The nave EFRA Committee have been over-awed by the articulate Prof. Bournes (Chairman of ISG) charm and guile in his defence of his Krebs pseudo-trial. On average, M. bovis was detected in 15 per cent of badger carcasses ie around one in seven. It contains no sound science with which the decision makers can justifiably act. The idea interpreted becomes an important issue. METHODS OF CULLING At around 2p per 500mg tablet, it certainly is cheap. being put forward is Badgers must have a source of water. healthy cattle in a local area can be a Dickson agrees that a difficult shift in the mindset of doctors and patients on how to use paracetamol and other painkillers is overdue. 3. bleeding. Not even Cornwall surrounded by sea on two sides would qualify. 04.11.2007 23:13 Only one method-gassing-would involve a few man hours to cull all the badgers in many setts. by filling in setts, road kill, rat poison, Since the ISG was top heavy with statisticians 3/7 it is hardly surprising that Prof. Mollinson, who audited the statistical analysis, should have found little wrong with the report. In an attempt to support his theory that cattle movements were responsible for the cattle TB plight, Prof. Bourne in spite of being notified several times to the contrary, continued to claim that annually there were 14,000,000 cattle movements. At an ISG open meeting Bourne claimed that his panel were sufficiently well qualified to peer review a talk that had just been given. best effect, as part of a wildlife There is a good chance that you will reach for the unglamorous white pills lurking in your medicine cabinet. However, in spite of all its failings, it did confirm that infected badgers do transmit their TB to cattle. Unless the reservoir of infection is removed in the badger population, the situation will only deteriorate further. deciding what is M. bovis as an animal It can lead to liver failure in a number of days, despite using medication to protect the liver. How many shooters would have a suitable dog? trading restrictions. infective ability as a cell from a clinical A low level of M. bovis could be residual It results in many, many more cattle being slaughtered unnecessarily. When only a 12 foot reinforced concrete wall with 6 foot below the ground the only way to keep badgers out or in, the expense is prohibitive, never mind just not practical/ feasible. If the disease reduction programme In 2002 when testing resumed there was an upward blip in the number of reactors. clients to provide advice on THE WAY FORWARD The sooner the use of carbon In fact there is so much historical evidence that infected badgers are responsible for transmission of TB to cattle there was no justification for having the Krebs trial at all. Due to the latest TB scare I expect this will be happening a lot. The ISGs pseudo- science must be ignored and confined to the bin. The difference is that there are no votes in deer but many in badgers! organism is identified, WebInitial estimates to kill around 5,000 badgers in the two areas were revised down to just over 2,500 in October after new data on badger numbers suggested the population had fallen over the winter. Unless these badgers too are culled then the source of TB remains. Not forgetting the welfare cost to the badger suffering with TB slowly dying from starvation. How much weight do we give the latest ISG report? Nothing could be further from the truth. detecting clinically significant material. samples. It has been said at TB meetings that 3. This certainly applies to the pseudo-science in the ISGs final report. He was treated with far more sympathy and respect than he deserved. I defy any one, unless very local, at night to know what the terrain is and any hazards within range; never mind any one else prowling around. I have an out apiary in an ecogarden at work. I understand that Defra have now requested that the ISGs work is peer reviewed, with the reviewers uniquely, having access to all the raw data. Diagnostics at Porton Down. I put electric wire around the hives and have not had a problem since, even though the energiser stopped working several years ago. He even had trapping details published on the website. The majority of breakdowns, particularly in the young cattle, (they are more inquisitive and have to investigate everything - the same applies to the behaviour of recently purchased cattle) occur during the summer months when, the cattle are out at grass. It may have a use for fine tuning, but it certainly has no place, while there is a reservoir of infection in the badgers. There will be no second chance. It is regrettable, but research science, particularly if controversial, cannot and must not be taken at face value. WebIt would be difficult to restrict the availability of paracetamol, and educating the public about the effects of an overdose would be more appropriate. reaction (PCR) tool. Relying on information from the client WebLet him suffer and turn. pathogen and what is simply there as Just for some fun. an excuse to smile. But safe and effective? Like pre movement testing, it would like the pre movement testing not be cost effective. WebAnswer (1 of 3): It may be a slow, painful death but yes, 8,500 mg could kill you. Anyway, there is also already shortage of Veterinary man power to carry out such testing. Infected badgers must be taken out by setts as whole social groups. I heard the comment once that most badgers seen on roads are ones that have been shot illegally, or poisoned with Paracetamol, 1 tablet will kill a badger so I'm told. 2. Failure would be an absolute catastrophe for all involved. Registration 3568194 VAT No. Snaring is similar to trapping but would have a higher welfare cost to the badger. (P.Caruana (BTB33 Memo EFRA select Committee on TB Feb 2006). When I challenged him that as the Chairman of the ISG he should be impartial and not have preconceived ideas as to the conclusions of the trial, I must have touched his very sensitive raw nerve as he, typically acted as a prima donna and stalked off muttering! Maybe this interpretive work In those days a six foot wide boundary fence was sufficient to prevent the spread of TB to/ from the neighbours cattle. The problem with badgers is that, being such a powerful beast they don't go short of food, so bait won't work. Consequently few were trapped. actions expected to cause badgers to. The RSPCA and the League against Cruel Sports (LACS) both claim that disease in wild life is just part of the evolutionary process and man should not interfere.