(Genesis 6:3) The issuance of this divine decree in 2490 B.C.E. Do Jehovah?s Witnesses claim to be a prophet of Jehovah? 4. 20:17, 22,23) And he may use his angels to slay the wicked. 4. How come they can't just say "we've done more research, we think we were mistaken. They were not the first group to resist mandatory recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools, but their resistance was the most widespread, coordinated, and uncompromising. [Footnotes]Jehovah's Witnesses, in their eagerness for Jesus' second coming, have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect. 23 The holy spirit of Jehovah is working mightily today! A subsequent feature article by the same name followed (pp. 2. In verse 5, the apostles concluding admonition is: from these turn away. The expression turn away renders the Greek term apotrepou, an imperative mood, present tense, middle voice form, together with the singular number/masculine gender. They can either come out with the date soon in the hope of short-term gains - or they can keep it under their hat until the mid-2020s. It fit together so nicely. class to publish the interpretation after the Supreme Court by Christ Jesus reveals it. . A former Jehovah's Witness has offered a rare insight into the religious group, describing it as a cult that "tries to control emotions, thought, information and behavior of a person". So, they've cut expenses to the bone (with more cuts on the way I would imagine). Considering that Jehovah's Witnesses have so many rules, one would do well to consider For the entire Law has been fulfilled in one commandment, namely 'You must love your neighbor as yourself.'Galatians 5:14 when reviewing them. I read the french version of this Watchtower edition and it was clearly suggested that the end might be in 2034 Do you have any comment about it? 32 Replies Never did they say, 'These are the words of Jehovah.' What events will lead up to it? 1:7-9) We know God when we know his likes, dislikes, and standards. (a)What does the word Armageddon mean? (2Chron. Satan, of course, will be enraged. 38:16) But Gog will soon see that he has marched into a trap. Those events occurred over many decades. 16 By their fruits YOU will recognize them Have Jehovah?s Witnesses and the ?Faithful and Discrete Slave? 8 That will be the foretold proclamation of peace and security. Why will world leaders say that? Why do they have to go from one extreme to another? By that time I hope my kid is a millionaire helping to support me in my retirement. 17 The good news about our Lord Jesus includes all the truths that Jesus taught, as found in Gods Word. They were guilty of false prophesying. Answer (1 of 19): Others have already given good answers as to what Armageddon is. If the latter - then they are going to have some problems in giving incentives for making people stay until the new prediction is made. It is vital, therefore, that each one recognize that Jesus Christ is the Head of the Christian congregation, as well as showing proper regard for those on earth who have been theocratically appointed to positions of oversight.-Phil. The organization is asking Ramapo . Jehovah's Witnesses Sources of Authority Because of our eagerness, we have hoped for the new system earlier than Jehovah's timetable has called for it. Institute tithing at some point so they can reasonably budget and make a go of it. 1:6-9. w08 01/01 pg. The 'end' did not come. The wording in the following quotations from the WT is carefully presented so as to obfuscate the real meaning. But there is one important difference between the two conflicts. A replacement for Freddy is still awaited. But Scott Terry, a former Jehovah's Witness for 14 years and author of Cowboys, Armageddon, and The Truth: How a Gay Child Was Saved from Religion, believes that a widespread apathy towards door . 24:13. 11:3; Acts 14:23. Let us consider each of these in turn. (see earlier thread) That is not so easy to call. or is it that you are trying to convince yourself they acually did predict? Amber Scorah writes about exiting the Jehovah's Witnesses in Leaving the Witness. *** w86 3/15 p. 19 Allow No Place for the Devil! (Isa. Armageddon.REV. They proudly bear his name, and they have obeyed his command to flee from Babylon the Great. Those who have read Raymond Franz's 'crisis of conscience' will have heard the story about Dan Sydlik's remark about the need to 'open some windows to let some air in here'. I was quite taken with this theory at the time, but of course 1999 came and went. The nations have not yet had the opportunity to have a world government without the interference of religious institutions present. But what happens when an elder's reasoning is confronted with . 9. (b)According to Ezekiel 38:2, 8, 9, what will bring Gog to the symbolic place called Armageddon? But is it not far preferable to make some mistakes because of overeagerness to see God's purposes accomplished than to be spiritually asleep as to the fulfillment of Bible prophecy? It's not like they haven't done this before. Share. Possibly. 1. 16. 12. Because of this, some have called them false prophets. The berating talks, guilt inducing WT studies, pressure from the CO & DOs, placement of MTS grads, none have really worked. Their strength will be in keeping calm and showing trust in Jehovah and his heavenly armies.Isa. Rather, he will destroy it in two main stages. One wild card in this time table is whether or not the abuse lawsuits succeed in stripping the new mirror corp.'s of their assets in the coming years. A financial crisis (hundreds of millions in just U.S., Can, and U.K. alone) could precipitate this shrinkage in an organization already pressed for funds. 16:13,14) That coalition is called Gog of the land of Magog. When the nations launch their attack, they will have arrived at the symbolic place called Armageddon.Rev. I'm the guy for the job! (The Watchtower June 1, 1976 pgs. ^ par. In what way will Christs anointed brothers be able to return the kindness shown them? A few weeks later, the Jehovah's Witnesses closed on a $200 million sale of that building to the private equity firm Kayne Anderson Real Estate Advisors, which plans to turn the property into . That will be enough for the WTS to delude the JW's for another 14 yrs. The thing is that date setting is the only thing that keeps JWs motivated. jw Or will the Witnesses break up into various factions and branches before it even reaches that stage? It's the absolute best way to scam people I have yet seen. In what important way will the war of Armageddon differ from the battle that Barak fought? The statement in the footnote appears to ignore the parallel account in Luke 17:26-28: Moreover, just as it occurred in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of man: 27 they were eating, they were drinking, men were marrying, women were being given in marriage, until that day when Noah entered into the ark, and the flood arrived and destroyed them all. Did not Moses make a 40-year miscalculation in trying to act ahead of time to remove Israel's affliction? The Society is adding a 120 years to the 1914 date to come up with the hinted date of 2034. if this generation is meant an era then it is to be 200yrs so1914+200=2114. The torrent of Kishon washed them away.Judg. TERMS OF USE The governing body (especially the young ones and future appointees) will panic when they realise that tinkering (15 mins for old publishers and pioneer requirement shifts) has not done the trick. Back in 1998, before I read anything apostate, I was having a conversation with an elderly sister about when the end might come. "-just not so near as before?). In 2014, a San Diego judge ordered Watchtower to award $13.5 million to a man who was abused by a church . 14:1-4; Ezek. (Rev. 22 when the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word does not occur or come true, that is the word that Jehovah did not speak. It will serve as a signal announcing the great tribulation. Tribulation has fallen upon those who stand by the Lord. 37:2337-Minute Listen. They have to figure out a way to motivate the average JW in the developed world to give more. For further information, consult the article on this web site: A Study of Matthew Twenty-four. Failed Watchtower date predictions and changed date doctrine of Jehovah's Witnesses, including lesser known ones such as 1799, 1844, 1874, 1878, 1918, 1920 and the 1940's. . (Matt. (reflexively) to become (come into being), used with great latitude (literal, figurative, intensive, etc. 6/1/99 and 8/15/99 Watchtowers each had articles that drew the parallel between the JWs work and Noah's. 1879 was the start of The Watchtower and 1999 was 120 years later. 37:36) Whatever means God uses, his victory will be complete. pp 14,15 explains the parallel with the days of Noah, in which Noah was given 120 years to. (Rev. Just google Armageddon 2034. A generation could be considered 40 years. 16:16; ftn.) He has prospered their work of preaching "this good news of the kingdom" in 194 different lands to date. I would seem that things are being revealed at the proper time to encourage the preaching work. The group took on the name International Bible Students Association and by 1914 it . But this lie will be especially dangerous because it will give people a false sense of security just before the greatest tribulation in human history begins. The effects of having no date took a while to manifest but compare the "zeal" of your average JW 20 years ago to the average JW now. Jehovah's Witness 'ordered to renounce faith and join Russian army' Europe. How do we know that Armageddon refers to a symbolic place? That is the interesting part. Alas, such appears not to be in the foreseeable future. Or will ordinary Witnesses see through the date setting because of the flood of information on the Internet? 70 Replies Her grandfather laughed when Armageddon didn't happen in 1914, CT Russell was sweating bullets because he didn't know what to say to anyone, he was panicking and pacing back and forth all night, they were . (Genesis 15:13; Acts 7:6, 17, 23, 25, 30, 34) Were not Christ's apostles overanxious to see the Kingdom established, not to speak of their complete misunderstanding as to what the Kingdom really is? The eschatology of Jehovah's Witnesses is central to their religious beliefs. 2:9-11; 1 Cor. Now, all they have to do is shift the start date to 1914 and they've got 2034 to look forward to. He may use any number of ways. Barak and the prophetess Deborah thanked Jehovah for their miraculous victory. The first was the initial portion of Matthew 24, while the latter was an excerpt from Pauls second epistle to Timothy. He will vent that rage by using demonic propagandaunclean inspired expressionsto cause a coalition of nations to turn on Jehovahs servants. Why, for instance, were there actually more pioneers (% wise) in the late 1980s than leading up to 1975? Thieves! (Rev. The only consistent thing about that record has been its absolute failure. (2 Tim. (Luke 21:32) And Jehovah, who is the source of inspired and unfailing prophecy, will bring about the fulfillment 1989 "The apostle Paul was spearheading the Christian missionary activity. The change in 95 took the wind out of 1) the sails of folks that stuck around after 75 (like my parents that were in their 20s at the time) and 2) the born-ins like me who suddenly realized that we had better plan on getting a real career, get married, have kids and try to live a normal life because there was no longer a end date in sight. Some 90 years have passed since the last days of this system of things began in 1914. Armageddon specifically refers to Mount Megiddo in Israel where some Christians believe the final conflict between good and evil will take place. last days. 20:1-3. 3. 1975 came and went and the governing body had to deal with the fallout for the coming 5 years until things started to pick up again. The fact of the matter is, however, the Watchtower folks concede that Christs application was to the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in A.D. 70. This apparently mirrored the mood of reform within the Catholic Church at the time. 1:3) The war of Armageddon will not destroy but save mankind! watchtower friends. Personally, having lived through the 1975 era as an adult, fully aware of the speculation and expectations associated with that time, along with the effect that it had on brothers around me, I am not excited to see the prospect of a similar event occurring as a result of the above statements. expand all. A Numerologist can always add 30 or 40 years to the last date that failed because it was based on Numerology and go on like all is well. It does not mean that the writings in this magazine The Watchtower are inspired and infallible and without mistakes." (a)According to 1Thessalonians 5:1-6, what unusual proclamation will world leaders make? Jehovah's Witnesses, however, expected that the . Since his enthronement in 1914 and the 3.5 years it took for the examination to determine who could be called the FDS. Jehovah's Witnesses - for indeed, it is they - are stepping up their presence in city centres across the UK in an effort to attract converts to a church that claims more than 8 million . Jehovah's Witnesses are members of a Christian-based religious movement probably best known for their door-to-door evangelistic work. In my opinion, there are 2 ways they can go: 1 - Mainstream - drop shunning, make blood conscious matter, focus less on field service and more on community projects (sort of like the LDS), turn Bethel into the JW version of BYU, push getting a good education instead of vilifying college, etc. (a)How do we show that we know God? Sure, they've had growth but its not translated into enough cash to keep the status quo. The leaders of the Watchtower Organization have long taught their members that THEY, and THEY, alone, are "appointed by Jesus" to dispense His truth, or, as it is put to the rank-and-file, "spiritual food," and that if a Jehovah's Witness does not follow the teachings of the Watchtower, and remain "faithful" to the Watchtower Organization, they are "going against God and His . *** Watchtower 1983 February 15 p.12 You Can Live Forever in on Earth-But How? As the Bible states, These persons are SELECTED by Jehovah. Only when new appointments are made to the governing body of people who have a reasonable chance of making it to 2034 will this idea get off the ground. There you have two lines of evidence that support the same conclusion. (Acts 15:16, 17; Rev. Are There Signs of the Second Coming of Christ? friends, Ijust ran across this. (Awake, Oct. 8, 1968). The glorious reign of Christ that shall bring blessings to the world will immediately follow. (a)Why is Armageddon good news for mankind? "My own counsel will stand, and everything that is my delight I shall do," says Jehovah. []. When the planet earth is destroyed, it will be a consequence of militant muslims or tectonic or planetary/solar mechanics and not because of any intervention from the "spirit realm.". My concern is that placing the emphasis of the discussion on the days of Noah might give some the false impression that the Bibles reference to the days of Noah would be similar, if not identical, to the History of Noah (Genesis 6:9) Because, immediately prior to the reference to the History of Noah we have the statement in Genesis 6:3: After that Jehovah said: My spirit shall not act toward man indefinitely in that he is also flesh. 2034,that would make my husband 84yrs old.But i thought it was any day now.Same crap,keep the flock in line with death threats no matter how long it takes. Let's take a real close look at the name "Jehovah . ***, Jehovah's Witnesses , in their eagerness for Jesus' second coming, have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect. The Watchtower recognizes the truth as belonging to Jehovah, and not to any creature. To me, the generation teaching was the primary argument that I (stupidly) believed meant that the world was ending soon. Included therein were Noah's building of the ark and his preaching work, right up until the time that the Flood finally arrived. Megiddo and the nearby Jezreel Valley were the sites of many battles. Well it turns out that many Adventists also thought of a 120 year tie in with that date and came to the conclusion that the end would come in 1964. I am sure that, based on the Watchtower articles I have referred to above, you have no intent of providing a possible means for the calculation of a date for Armageddon. Incredibly, however, they manipulate the expression this generation across more than 2,000 years of history to embrace the modern era. That's awful far away. (Rev. 3. ", I asked. Songez ce qu'il signifiait : plus que 120 ans et Jhovah allait amener" un dluge d'eau sur la terre, pour ravager de dessous les cieux toute chair dans laquelle la force de vie est en action" - Gense 6:17 7 () Et nous ? The cover of that particular issue dramatically asked: Are we nearing Armageddon? (Watchtower, October 15, 1980). This crazy religion changes doctrine more than some people change underwear. Prior to 1914, Jehovah's Witnesses believed that Armageddon would end in 1914, and this included the fall of false religion (including Christendom) and the end of all earthly governments followed by heavenly and earthly resurrections and the establishment of paradise on earth. Notice that Jesus did not liken his presence to the relatively short period of time during which the Flood occurred in Noah's day. www.opendialoguemediations.com. Then I read an interesting thing about the Adventists. Should we use these accounts in Matthew and Luke to indicate an extended period of time of the presence of Jesus Christ? Despite our trials, how can we remain faithful as Armageddon draws near? Maybe they're use this one after 2034 hope proves false hope once again. (Read Ezekiel 38:2, 8,9.) The expression this generation (he-genea-aute) is found five times in Matthews Gospel record, and never is it employed in any sense other than that of the generation contemporary with Jesus Christ (cf. Jehovah has allowed the nations time to experiment with all different forms of government. The 2034 date is thoroughly refuted by the numbers in the Insight book.
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