To summarize, I would say that Mars/Pluto could be passionate sex and passionate emotions but no soul.If a chart had no Moon aspects and Mars/Pluto aspects, I would say it would be a fling. I dont want to assume that having Nessus conj BML means Im going to be abusive in sexual relationships. If you want to end it, be upfront and be kind. I've never experienced it myself, but have read that Lilith/Pluto contacts are also intensely sexual and even violent (particularly the opposition). In fact, it is the opposite. Thank you, Kay <3 I could not agree more with this. This vertex conjunction shows up again like in my previous relationship. Eros-Psyche: Eros and Psyche are natural mates. That can be justified through basic psychology, I think. I dont want people to get the wrong idea and then get scared over a small aspect. Karmic astrology synastry is suddenlyreally interesting when you want to look at your own relationship. I do charts for the people who want them. I can relate to everything Ive read from you. In these dark, sexual relationships, you feel the raw passion and soul mate connection like no other. I have found that when someone's personal planets make strong aspects to someone else's natal Eros, a strong sexual bond and attraction is indicated. I am so thankful to have such a resource like this for guidance. Lilith, both Black Moon and Asteroid 1181, brings up deep and primal sexual energy sometimes accompanied by feelings of anger, rejection and rage. 3) Angles in the houses & aspects. The Lilith person might have trouble with issues surrounding desirability. Do you know what these aspects could mean? Thank you so much, Love. There are millions of possible outcomes, and none should be claimed as the truth. Sun person helps Lilith person recognize their subconscious gifts and strengths. The Lilith person brings sexual energy that is literally untamed. Love, If one does not see any abuse when this happens, my opinion would be that they dont know the person enough lol. Would the aspects to the venus offset the negativity that the Dejanira implies? My Dejanira is square his venus (-0a) and conjunct his vertex (0s). How will these aspects play out? Would you liken moon/pluto dynamics to an 8th house moon overlay? I found your site a short time ago and learned a lot, very descriptive in the analysis, I love it! My sun and deja are on his nn. It makes sense when you consider how deeply Lilith desires to eat/destroy her loves mythologically. Also, there is no abuse either way. 9. And how would his Saturn conjunct her dejanira play out? What significance would you place on someones Juno conjunct my vertex, south node as well as very-widely conjunct my sun (same sign). It can ruin possible healthy relationships. That mars/nessus of his is also square his moon/pluto. They have lots of soulmate connections in the charts and both make really strong NN conjunctions and squares in synastry. This really highlights this magnetic quality to this conjunction and creates a situation where each individual holds the . I dont mean to, but I think I find issues/hurts of my friends and partners and end up trying to mother them if thats what you meant. Nessus is the abusers asteroid. However, it's recommended to do an individual birthchart analysis before analyzing the Synastry to see the personal needs and potential for maintaining a healthy relationship. There are no planets conjunct or square either Nessue or Dejanira in either chart, the only conjunction is her Dejanira to his Nessus. I am honored to have you as a valued member of my website family , Ivs, why dont you come put your chart in my Personal Readings Forum. And how did you arrive at the conclusion that Nessus and Dejanira are indicative of abuse? This would take a whole chart reading. It sounds really bad I guess, but this person has given me so much positivity and encouragement and I feel has set me on a positive path. Eros Conjunct the Midheaven: This synastry aspect will be quite powerful for both parties since it will impact the way that the world views them. If someone does not want to accept the truth, that is their choice, but I, personally, will not do their chart. We do not have enough information on every aspect, and never will because again, no interpretation is set in stone to be able to tell someone that something is most certainly going to happen. This is another clear-cut past life astrology marriage aspect, although it isnt as heavy. Please, keep me posted though but, yes, please, be careful, Love! Synastry: Sun square Pluto, sun conjunct Amor, sun conjunct psyche, Pluto conjunct moon, Venus square Pluto, (they have Venus square Pluto)natal also, mars sextile Venus, Mars conjunct Sappho and trine Uranus (they have mars square Uranus natal mars) tine Jupiter, Venus conjunct Neptune and sun conjunct Venus and Eros square Pluto, Eros conjunct kaali, Venus conjunct kaali all opposite Nessus!! That Pluto/DSC has been a source of confusion and frustration for me for a while, but now it makes sense. Please please do Nessus conjunct Lilith in synastry?? It would have ruined my relationship with my mother because I would have feared her even though she showed no signs of abuse. Or can both apply? Does nessus still be working as a tendency to abuse? Do you think I need to worry about the Nessus/BML conjunction or about abusing the poor wounded birds I keep looking for? This aspect can bring intense emotions, profound personal growth, and the potential for both positive and negative experiences. Im 30 with a mother that is 32 years older than myself and have never experienced any abuse, and Ive been alive and around my mother long enough to experience it. (double-whammy..) Yes, that is a good way to put it. My nessus is separated from my true node by 7 in cncer and in exact opposition to my venus. In the rare instance where these two do meet, the results are truly awe inspiring . or you consider just the closer orbit? His touch is all at once sexual, creative and spiritual. Our mars are square (aquarius:leo) also. And when you really think about it this line of thought deserve to be abused is quite sociopathic in nature. Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com 2000 I appreciate your thoughts on these aspects but I am concerned when any astrologer singles out specific aspects and makes sweeping judgements about charts and how the energies in that chart will be made manifest. Eros is a spicy little asteroid who generates excitement in relationship astrology. Lilith brings up deep and primal sexual energy sometimes accompanied by feelings of anger and rage. This is based on experience and charts, as are all my theories. M. What are the exact Sun/pluto aspects Maria? Do you have their synastry you could post on my Forum? I am new on this and finding all this information was revealing, so now I will stick to questions about my dejanira and nesuus. I feel like it helps me. There is attraction based on dark forces like rage, pain and abuse. That is why it is so powerful. Check out our 40+ page relationship astrology eBook! -Eros conjunct their personal planets ( Sun,Moon,Venus, Mars etc.). 10. What does that mean? Lilith desires sacred sex above all things. No worries. That`s very interesting information. The chart never lies, my Friend. Eros/Pluto/Lilith together makes for one powerful combination. Eros in a synastry chart. and should I post the picture of the chart (I usually get it from astro.com)? Your passions are overwhelming, spontaneous, and you develop your attractions without even thinking about it. I was wondering.. Are Sun/Mars (double whammy) and Venus/Mars (double whammy) dark aspects in synastry? I have no vested interest in any asteroid or any placement being any way other than my being able to help people. He was considered irresistible. I am prone to being attacked in this way. 2) I just started going out with a guy, we have good chemistry and just checked our natal charts and see we share amazing aspects except for my dejanira. I just got into astrology a month ago and find it fascinating. Thank you for this information! It may be off a few minutes and change things. I just want to let people know that things are not as clean cut and set in astrology as it is written sometimes because things that are presented as the only possible, likely truth will make people will fear astrology and the people around them if they look into isolated aspects from small asteroids and planets alike. As I see more pieces, I think my awareness shifts, and I do feel like that makes a difference. Lilith Conjunct Ascendant Synastry Sun Conjunct Lilith Synastry This connection will burn as hot as the sun! I know there are astrologers who make every aspect positive but I dont think that is real and real is what heals and real is what gets people mad at you too lol. But, I will take sides with Sydney on this issue. Nessus conjuncts BML, and Dejanira conjuncts DSC and Pluto. To me, it always is. This relationship can be really passionate, fiery, and exciting. My ex has Scorpio Pluto conjunct my scorpio moon, and I have Sagittarius pluto conjunct his sagittarius moon. my mars is there too though, trining his Scorpio pluto 0.25 we have physical heat but plenty of fighting. If other aspects and planets in the chart point to marriage, then it was probably a romantic, attractive marriage where the couple did not see each other all day, did not share a bedroom, had a large household staff, lived apart, etc. Yes very passionate.50shades of grey is just childplay. In other words, if a mans Nessus conjuncts your ASC, he will abuse you, in my opinion. It needs to be 3 degrees, tops, so no worries there! You are not an astrology god that holds the key to the entire truth. Grace dear We are dealing with very primal emotions here and we all know what primal emotions and passions can do if a person is not careful. I didn't eroticize his everyday actions. Even with a trine this 8th house effect enhances both the good and the bad ? so what would it be? His Pluto sextile my moon, His Jupiter conjunct my moon and his Neptune conjunct my moon, also his mars opposite my venus, is that conducive to passion and helping me release my cancer 8th house sun conjunct north node repressesion? I'm really only just starting to get to know Eros well, and Lilith is still somewhat elusive. The asteroid Eros plays a role in sexual attraction as well. You, as the Pluto in the trine with his Sun and venus could kind of see through him lol, Thank you Amy for your reply We are both passionate, but luckily, by nature, not violent people thank God . Maybe, maybe not. In the rare instance where these two do meet, the results are truly awe inspiring, changing our lives in intense and lasting ways. The 12th house is all about past life astrology, so the planets can always be applied to past lives as well as the current life. Hi Ami. There is the potential to take things to another realm when the aspects are favorable. Am I right? What about mars, Saturn and Jupiter in Virgo? It makes me feel very crazy. Also, I discovered that my daughter has Dejanira conjunct her 2H Virgo Moon(3 deg. Im trying really, really hard not to jump to conclusions, so any help or advice you could give would be very much appreciated. Does the man walk up to you and tell you that he wants to abuse you because you seem like the perfect victim? BUT my dejanira is conjunct with his sun by one degree and my dejanira is also in the same degree as my AC What does that mean? . "I want to welcome you to my website. Isis Conjunct the Vertex. I don't need anything from you, except to serve you. How fortunate we are to have such a wonderful body of info to help us! That is why I dont mince words. This is my opinion and other people may differ but I call things as I see them, Mandy dear. I am looking to add 5 more aspects and would love your opinions! Or can my Sun hurt the person. Ive never seen the Descendant explained so clearly or succinctly before. Things dont come out until marriage, sometimes. What is your opinion on I dont know too much about asteroids and wonder if the intense attraction I am feeling will fizzle as quickly as it came about or if it lasting. About YOU being the Nessus with your b/f. From the outsider's perspective, Eros and the Ascendant person will seem as if they are living the romantic experience only witnessed in films. Sun sextile/trine/conjunct Moon is often found in marriage synastry charts. Saturn draws the couple together due to karma, but Juno and South Node aspects offer more of a choice. with Dejanira conjunct his natal Sun tell me your story, if you care to, Juice dear. The Basic House Rulers23 Simple Steps for Beginners. A Sun conjunct Lilith transit highlights the power traits like charisma, magnetism, emotional force and leadership qualities of the Sun. Would you say that a double whammy Nessus OPPOSITE Juno is something dangerous too ? Thank you F for being here and for taking the time to comment.What do you mean exactly? Lets see. It makes my day , What conjuncts the DSC, we disown and find in the partner. Keep in mind that conjunctions are the most important, but other aspects can occasionally speak to marriage. I still talk to him to this day and I honestly will never forget how magnetic this relationship was. Also, our vertexes are conjunct in the same degree. I haven't been able to find much discussion about this connection and I'm really interested in hearing stories from other people who've experienced it. Eros represents what turns us on. Dejanira is the victim asteroid. Hardly. This is a general rule, my Friend. I dont really understand the aspect you are asking about. Eros is also prominent in their synastry. in case his vertex in my moon and ascendant *. Deja conj ASC may make for victimization as you fo through life, I am not able to do more. Lastly, with me having moon conjunct neptune in my natal and venus in my 12th house, does that make me similar to venus in pisces xxx I ask because I attract men with mars in pisces and men who have pisces as a descendant/7th house , Hi Ami, Hello, what a great article, thank you. I do find it funny that I have Dejenira in 5 deg Sag, since most of my arch enemies were Sags. When Lilith and Mars team up in synastry, there's nothing they can't do. Lilith Synastry Sun and Lilith conjunct in the synastry chart When Sun person's Sun and Lilith person's Lilith combine, each person awakens the deep desire for individuality and creativity in each other. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Opposition AC / Moon and trigone mars and saturne. Thanks :), Now, we come to things that could really make the relationship dark. Also, how does moon conjunct pluto in synastry differ to moon conjunct pluto in composite. Dejanira trines my Ascendant. We also had a Juno Vertex conjunction. The ex that abused me while I was pregnant had his Nessus conjunct my MC. Another asteroid that is dark is Dejanira. To put it plainly, if you have a dominant Nessus, you will be an abuser. . Hi! 2) I just looked for the child asteroid and it is on 28 Capricorn, conjuct with my venus 1 Aquarius. There is no superficial way to get to know Lilith through the experience of the erotic. They may not be able to see what you are up to and you could use this for your gain. We need to look at the whole chart to see the whole story. It wasn't until he began to withhold sex from me that I finally crumbled. Since both Eros and Lilith are isolated energies buried deep in the unconcious, the erotic transformation which takes place upon their meeting is deep with raw and intuitive spiritual potency. We all have Liliths plutonic quality in us, the unconscious energy that brings up harsh boundaries between life and death, ecstasy and suffering, passion and revulsion, enslavement and freedom. We enter the month of February, with lust, love and passion. Romantic Conjunctions in the 12th House If you see any intense conjunctions between the Sun, the Moon, Juno, the South Node, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Lilith, etc. A recent past life will influence every bit of the relationship you have now. The pairing can easily fulfill the other's sexual desires and unlock some of their naughty fantasies. We have our arguments and I sometimes feel put down by him (and, to be fair, he feels the same way about me) and sometimes my self-esteem suffers. Would appreciate some insight!! For example, I am the moon person and my mars also falls in his 8th and much of what you described for moon/pluto conjunction sounds like us. You made my day, Juice and Welcome! Not good, my Friend. Where did you get these theories from? His sun/jupiter/neptune/venus are on my venus/saturn trouble spot in scorp. I wouldnt think my mars/Pluto semisextile is as strong though it can do damage. Asteroids and aspects do not control people. Pluto conjunct Sun synastry indicates a powerful and transformative relationship. I have this aspect with someone Im seeing. . its more like the astrology helps me to fill in the pictures. Any other aspect will show a wound through marriage, but the marriage wasnt necessarily involving both parties together. Ami, Christian Psychic Readings & Astrology Charts for All Faiths. Your posts are starting to scare me now Ami. Eros and Psyche were mythical lovers, and were brought together by fate. The flip side is that when it ends( and it usually does) you could go to jail for homicide. Chiron conj the Sun is not sexy. His Amor is in trine and sextile to a few of her inner planets. I will try to maintain rock solid boundaries and not get led into any weirdness as nothing is amiss yet. what would result from this? I would say no, but I am not the last word in anything. What would that mean? I wasnt abused as a child in any way. I often am able to get away in time, and at other times I can get away only to a certain degree. I think theres a trine or sextile to other asteroids but nothing major. I have to always be honest. Thats why its so weird bc it is a very good longterm relationship. That is what I was saying. Deep soul love, incredibly painful at times. I remember the first time I discovered how to read a synastry chart; I worked with mine and my boyfriends for about 6 hours. How does that play out? Hi, anyone can tell me more about a double whammy Pluto-Venus? Aww Fluffy That never ceases to amaze me, either! I bet that the son was still the abuser though, even if he was the victim, as a child. I am the nessus person and I admit to having some devious tendencies towards anyone with neptune in that position. You could post it in my Forum if you would like, Eva. Nessus conj the NN in synastry would make me RUN and fast lol. Both of them are loaded with sexual power, so their interaction is often explosive. I do keep finding myself attracted to people who seem to have a strong primal power under the surface, and I dont really feel connected to Pluto myself (I dont know if thats on purpose or simply because its otherwise weakly aspected in my chart). Unlike Juno/Saturn aspects, Juno in aspect with the South Node does not necessarily indicate that marriage in this life will be a force. If you know, let me know! Are they married, Lo. Dejanira (female) conjunct Saturn (male) YES. Can my Fortuna have some healing effect? Yeah, the They may not be able to see what you are up and you could use this for your gain fits perfectly. His moon also conjunct my IC, orb 1. Crow Symbolism: Spiritual Meaning Of The Crow, 6 Effective Studying Spells For Exams, Class, & Enhanced Focus, Winter Solstice & Yule: Rituals, Traditions, And Ways To Celebrate. I dont think you can draw the concrete conclusion you did from these aspects. He may abuse her and it would be seen publicly. 1) What does it mean to have dejanira 13 in conjuction with my ascendant 12? I think there are very few people who actually manage to overcome childhood abuse, and not without a long painful journey and negative experiences. The Sun person naturally understands who the Moon person is and vice versa. It is desire, it is passion and love. How do you relate to all the men who have their Pluto there? The chart allows one to see oneself. Thank You so much for this info. With mercury and Uranus in Scorpio. We have moons in conjunction in gemini; His venus and mars are in conjunction with my venus in Aquarius. She has never treated me as less than, and she is extremely giving. I seem to be one of the rare people doing it lol. Does it matter if he doesnt have pluto in aspect to my venus (mine is 19 Libra)? I will come back and answer when I have time to really look at the details.
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